Rights advocates call on the Trump administration to ensure accountability for the killing of Sayfollah Musallet.

Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank have beaten to death a United States citizen in his early 20s, the victim’s family members and rights groups have said.

“We are aware of reports of the death of a US citizen in the West Bank,” Reuters reported a State Department spokesperson as saying. The official declined to comment further “out of respect for the privacy of the family and loved ones” of the reported victim.

  • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
    43·
    16 hours ago

    I am begging reddit debate lords to actually learn what ‘strawman’ means, rather than treating the wikipedia page on logical fallacies like a list of magic incantations.

    I am also begging them to just talk plainly: “You strawmanned me”, rather than this insufferable nerd sarcasm bullshit of “sorry you strawman didn’t work.”

    • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
      25·
      16 hours ago

      I mean if, we’re being real, it was also a whataboutism. “What about what the democrats did?”

      Get better.

      • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
        5·
        3 hours ago

        Whataboutism is itself a thought-terminating cliché.

        Citations Needed podcast: Whataboutism - The Media’s Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US Policy

        Since the beginning of what’s generally called ‘RussiaGate’ three years ago, pundits, media outlets, even comedians have all become insta-experts on supposed Russian propaganda techniques. The most cunning of these tricks, we are told, is that of “whataboutism” – a devious Soviet tactic of deflecting criticism by pointing out the accusers’ hypocrisy and inconsistencies. The tu quoque - or, “you, also” - fallacy, but with a unique Slavic flavor of nihilism, used by Trump and leftists alike in an effort to change the subject and focus on the faults of the United States rather than the crimes of Official State Enemies.

        But what if “whataboutism” isn’t describing a propaganda technique, but in fact is one itself: a zombie phrase that’s seeped into everyday liberal discourse that – while perhaps useful in the abstract - has manifestly turned any appeal to moral consistency into a cunning Russian psyop. From its origins in the Cold War as a means of deflecting and apologizing for Jim Crow to its braindead contemporary usage as a way of not engaging any criticism of the United States as the supposed arbiter of human rights, the term “whataboutism” has become a term that - 100 percent of the time - is simply used to defend and legitimizing American empire’s moral narratives.

        • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml
          2·
          2 hours ago

          That’s an interesting excerpt. I always thought the proper response to an identified whatabout is to simply say “I asked you first.” -That’s assuming the opposite party refused to respond to the initial premise, argument, or question. I imagine if they did respond to the initial premise, argument, or question then asking whatabout… is just a standard form of discussion and debate, or so I’d think.

      • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
        23·
        3 hours ago

        Get better.

        Do you lot insist on writing like the most annoying losers on earth deliberately?

        • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
          22·
          2 hours ago

          You know what the absolutely weakest whataboutism is? Both sides!

          You’re on a roll. Do a Gish Gallop next! I love Gish Gallops!

          • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
            21·
            1 hour ago

            I see you’re now just going down the list of magic incantations you learned from Wikipedia.

            Not to mention, doubling down on talking like the biggest reddit loser imaginable. How about you tell us about bacon and narwals next