You could dislike both.

I honestly don’t notice as long as the conversation continues.

Suure, you’ve “just read” things.

I guess it just becomes it’s own repetitive kind of comment.

Hey, we took in your draft dodgers. The main thing would be to not mess up our housing supply further. In any case, I doubt the safe third country agreement would withstand a court challenge at this point.

It’s going to be trans people who would be eligible first, probably.

A lot of farmers are just rich guys, basically, but smug on top of it because of the tough image they have. The ones that own land aren’t the ones that do the work, and the work that people who aren’t immigrants do tends to be the sitting in a cab kind. There’s not a lot of people between 20 and 45 here in rural Alberta anyway. The Hutterites are an obvious exception, but they don’t vote anyway.

From what I’ve seen they really liked Kurek, are mad Poilievre is an outsider, and doubly mad because he’s an Ontario city type, but it’s nothing a firm handshake and some rabble-rousing won’t smooth over. He might get only 70%

That would be a real argument, if the immigrants weren’t poor themselves and if they actually were bad for the economy as opposed to good.

The fact that you jumped in here like that in response to a barely-related comment about democracy makes me think racist.

The way you phrased that makes it sound like there’s something I should personally do to make sure an inevitable conflict stays cold. If you have an idea, I’m all ears.

Anyway, hopefully Canada will open up asylum to Americans soon, in case things get really bad.

Only if you respond with a link and no explanation.

What would you prefer? No sources? Talking only about insubstantial things that don’t need them? Obviously you’re here to talk about something.

Well, that kind of supports my theory here.

It’s shitty that there’s not much you can do to actually intervene. Usually they don’t come straight out and admit they’re a misogynistic trashbag, it’s just a strong vibe.

You’re right, I actually have that backwards. The SRP, which was banned, was itself a successor to the DRP. Sorry!

I don’t know if it had any seats, but Wikipedia says there were 10,000 members. Interesting to hear there there’s been more that have been worthy of media coverage since then.

I’m all for banning them but it’s been 80 years that WWII ended and we still don’t have a real solution that actually works.

I’m not sure one is even possible. Fascism is primally appealing, and every generation assesses the world from scratch. Unless we merge with AI or stop reproducing or something it will always come back. We just have to keep putting it down.

Yes, but if we all did that there’d be no conversation here.

Yeah. I was really looking forward to not worrying about the CBC being shuttered. No such luck.

Hopefully more like Cold War II. And honestly, Australia’s in a pickle there - most other democracies are pretty damn far away from it. They might try to do the Finland thing instead.

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You know it’s going to make more sense on some level, though. We love talking shit about America, we’ve just never been able to channel it anywhere.

(Although if you’re closer to the border it’s probably different)

People get really jumpy about going against public political choice in a democracy, which is fair, but I think there’s been error in the other direction.

No existing democracy is absolute, and there’s a pretty strong argument it has to be that way.

but don’t actually have a plan beyond that to get 30% of the voters to not vote for the next party that uses the nazi talking points.

Last time Germany banned a successful far-right party they tried this, but the new party was also quickly banned. They’re miles ahead of you on this, which makes sense given that the laws were written by people just liberated from the OG Nazis.

I mean, it political bans usually work. Troskyism died in Stalin’s Russia, and pretty much every late Cold War junta was successful at suppressing their local communist movement, even if large. Germany itself has successfully banned far-right parties in the past.

Sure, the martyr effect exists, but it’s hella overrated, basically just because people are starting with the conclusion that you can’t ban things (which may or may not have merit) and working backwards. I’m not actually aware of any case where a banned movement has succeeded alongside non-incumbent legal movements, and even in autocracies revolutions and coups usually fail.

TBF Jew is an ethnicity at least as much.

More than usual, even.