I did hold my nose and voted for Kamala but I shouldnt have to. Thats my problem with it. I had to vote for genocide to try and stop trump and I hated it. Why couldnt we get a situation where we voted for better medicare and to stop trump.
Face it, the dems choose Israel over you and your loved ones and you’re pointing the finger at anyone but them.
Lmao, I fucking hate the republicans. Trump is literally the anti-christ. And yes, they support the genocide too.
I’m also pissed at the dems for basically trying their hardest to get him elected and see scapegoating voters as helping their losing defunct platform as well as by extent the zionist platform.
I want change and making voters feel bad and only blaming them guarantees we dont get change.
Yes, because THE DNC SUPPORTED GENOCIDE. I don’t care about your whataboutism.
The dems need to stop supporting genocide and the apartheid state of Israel because :
The dems literally got Trump elected with their short sighted support for a foreign genocidal nation.
Tell me your views on Israel bro, tell me how they aren’t the bad guys and it isnt really a genocide. I’m guessing thats what you are really trying to say.
I never voted for trump. I voted Kamala but im mature enough to understand that I shouldnt have to vote for genocide, the party should simply stop pushing it. I’m also smart enough to understand that the dems ultimately lost by putting Israel and their genocide before their actual voters.
The election is over, if all you learned from their mistake is that voters should just ignore genocide and not that the party should stop helping commit genocide, then I dont know what to tell you.
No, im honest about the fact that supporting genocide is stupid and supporting it harder because the Russians are using that support to their advantage is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
You dont have a leg to stand on, and your sources dont even counter my point. They seem to actually help my argument.
The democrates supported genocide and are POS for doing it. By defending their position, you support genocide (this part is probably not news for you, Im guessing you’re in the “right to defend themselves” looney crowd.)
Ask yourself why you dont blame the party that decided to base their platform on supporting genocide. The dems chose the interests of a foreign nation committing genocide before the minority and trans community and the interest of their constituents in general.
As your links show, the dems created a massive vulnerability by supporting genocide. It doesnt say anything about them not supporting it.
The dems have to change their stance. Russia using their support for genocide against them doesnt mean we should support genocide. They kind of solve both problems by publicly condemning Israel and its what voters want as well.
And those “morons” will fall it again if the dems keep creating situations that make them look terrible. They are acting like villains, of course its easy for russia to convince people they are.
How easy is it to just tell Israel to fuck off? Yet im suppose to pat them on the back and blame the evil voters that just couldnt swallow their pride and support ethnic cleansing? Id rather they grew some balls and stopped presenting Trump Lite as their official party strategy.
They aren’t receiving enough blame if there are still people that are scapegoating ordinary folk that felt genocide, of all things, was were the line should be drawn. It’s normal to not support genocide, the lunatics that tried to push it as a platform are the only ones to blame.
I have never come across anyone supporting Trump on lemmy. I voted for Kamala but we are in a post election environment. The election is OVER and they betrayed us.
Demanding the dems stop supporting genocide on the grounds that it’s the right thing to do and it clearly alienated their voters is not supporting Trump.
Holding the dems accountable for the shit show they orchestrated at the behest of israel is not supporting Trump.
Demanding they start to actually represent us and demanding internal changes in the party is not supporting Trump.
Who are you supporting by defending their stance on genocide so consistently?
Good thing the dems made it easy by putting the interests of a foreign genocidal apartheid state before their voters. With a bit of luck, we might be able to successfully blame everyone but them, and they might be confident enough to repeat the same strategy and lose the next election as well.
What does that have to do with demanding change inside the democratic party? I just want the “good guys” (who I’m essentially forced to vote for) to stop supporting genocide.
I would hardly say wanting the democrats to stop enabling and supporting genocide to be in the interests of a foreign nation. Maybe in the interest of decency or of humanity in general.
Whatever way you frame it, the democrates ignored their voters, betraying them to instead do the bidding of the state of Israel.
They are, in the end, expected to listen to their consituents and not a war mongering genocidal apartheid state.
An easy solution would be for the Democrats to condemn the GENOCIDE (its a bit more then a purity test) and break ties with Israel.
They lost because they put the interests of a foreign nation above their own constituents, I hope they have better sense then to do it a second time.
If we don’t hold the dems accountable, they will not change their stance before the next election.
Your whataboutism is not any better then his…
Netanyahu’s move last month to dismiss [Ronen Bar, chief of Shin Bet, Israel’s domestic intelligence service] was suspended by the court pending an investigation
Netanyahu’s bid to oust Bar came as Shin Bet was investigating financial ties between the prime minister’s office and Qatar, a key mediator in the Gaza war.
The Shin Bet head also said he had refused to sign off on a security request aimed at relieving Netanyahu from testifying at an ongoing corruption trial in which he faces charges of bribery, fraud and breach of public trust.
Shin Bet also happened to be carrying out an inquiry based on suspicion that the government had ignored warnings in advance of Hamas’s attack on southern Israel on October 7, 2023, when the armed Palestinian group killed more than 1,100 people and took about 250 captive.
Works with 1984 or 1929 too.
He still has cards to play to make himself heard. He hasn’t insulted anyone’s attire yet.
You have literally said you are for the armement of Israel. Of course any protest against Israel is too violent for you.