There is no argument you have here. Pp is not a Nazi. All this does it’s discredit you. Be more precise

I’ve gone the other way. It’s the people around me who all complain that they dislike things but don’t do anything that have annoyed me. I’ve taken a radically different approach. I’ll enjoy myself and encourage those industries until things get so bad it motivates these people to maybe take action instead of waiting until it’s too late. I’ll help make things worse.

I buy multiple YouTube premium accounts. I watch ads until the very end. Whenever I see a content creator who allows more ad breaks, I donate to their channel, upvote and subscribe. I participate regularly on Reddit subs like marvel, often creating posts like “who is your favorite marvel character to go on a coffee date with teahee” I become the content consumer they want me to be because what’s the worst that can happen.

What else am I suppose to do. Wait around for everybody else to get a backbone. I’ll never understand why we can all muster the energy to protest a behemoth that wouldn’t be impacted by boycott but fail to boycott smaller players that would feel it. It’s all by design. There’s no grass roots anything. It’s all just what we’re allowed to protest and boycott.

I buy tickets all the time from industries I hate in hopes that one day they realize they should treat customers better. Until then I’ll keep buying tickets.

Because as I’ve gotten older and I can afford things, I realized there’s no effort to prevent this from other people. So why would I miss out. It’s not like we’re on the right where they will protest and collectively not stop until they get their thing actioned.

No, what you’re doing is lazily leveraging the nazi context for your political benefit. PP is not a Nazi for having a photo op or being tangentially associated with some asshole. It’s as lazy as showing pictures of people with Epstein and calling them pedophiles because they were in a photo.

It’s bullshit politics. The sad part is that you will never realize how it’s your credibility that is lost. And unfortunately since you associate with certain values, you lose credibility for the whole. There’s reason to shit on him for spending time with these people. But when you go hyperbolic and dramatically call him a Nazi, you lose the plot

Seriously consider what you’re saying here. That PP is a Nazi, he clearly is not, while telling me my head is up my ass

Hey, just wanted to say you’re right. And these people here are bad faith commentators. They push things towards hyperbolic statements in the same way the right went nuts in their own way.

Unfortunately I fear this is what we have to come to accept now until everything blows up.

That’s a win to me. Not every one on the left wanted a social left leader. Social issues are important. But the economy right now is the biggest fire.

An absolute Carnageddon for PP

God damit this sentence makes me want to blow my brains out. It’s too fucking thick in bullshit. You ever notice how the right will just call someone a pedo or gang member and that really works. It’s not like they go " he’s just socioeconomic poverty based victim of modern prison system" like just get to that point. Andrew is a grown man who targets children.

Right, why are countries not coordinating counter tariffs. Why isn’t EU and Canada and others joining up to target some of the biggest donors and supporters

I’m the troll?

What are you contributing here?

Same shit that radicalized the right. Either you agree with the culture or you’re a troll was the same engagement that pushed the right to the far right.

Let’s come back in a month to see what these protests have accomplished. I would bet it accomplished nothing no matter how big it gets.

Engage with my point or don’t waste time writing “you’re dumb” as a comment.

In modern times protests are outdated and ineffective methods to spread your ideas.

The Internet is a force multiplier.

Efforts are better used online than in protests.

The right have capitalized on effective strategies especially using the Internet to spread their message.

The left are being left behind because they fail to understand this

Do they? I’ve seen the headlines but do they really?

Every few years it seems like they are circling the same drain as everyone else.

Protests where we all just gather and walk around aren’t effective. You need to be proactive and anticipatory. We saw it with George Floyd protests. There’s no win. Either people will show up and go home. Or, the protests will grow to a point that it becomes out of control. When it’s out of control then the police salivate and pull out their black book training manual for how to beat hippies and they get to work. Just as a farmer leads his cows to slaughter. The police have solved the protestor problem. You will not win. Tactics need to adapt

You think those people aren’t online?

This is exactly my point. You’re proving it. The left have no idea what they’re doing. This is why the right are winning. They aren’t wasting their effort and time. They’re targeting key areas using modern techniques and even inventing their own. The left are so hell bent on this romanticized ideals of the hippie putting flowers into barrels that they haven’t progressed at all. It has cost so much and will continue to lead us into obscurity or worse.

I’ll tell you what, let’s come back in a couple weeks and see what these protests accomplished

A very sad thing is that it’s a protest. Even if it was reported on what would happen? What is the result of any of this?

Now imagine all those people went online and just created and shared content. Imagine all those people creating 5 things a week. They countered every bullshit on YouTube. If they countered every ounce of bullshit on Reddit. If they fucked with the algorithm by calling out the Rogan sphere and other podcasters making them look like the dumb asses they are. If they just culture jammed the fuck out of this broken fucking culture. But they don’t.

They drive 2 hrs to stand in the cold hoping a media that doesn’t listen will spread a message. I bet the protestors are not very clear on what the expected result is here either. Most probably seen that someone asked them to show up and they did. They’re willing to do the work but in my opinion, it’s directed into an energy sink with minimal reward. I think we can do better with understanding how content is king. How this is about culture and message and ideas rather than old school methods like protest in the streetds. People can laugh all they want thinking online content is just stupid jokes. It is. But also it’s culture and this is about culture.

When Republicans and Russia wanted to change our culture to favor the right wing they didn’t invest millions into protests. They hired influencers and created networks. They paid college kids to make memes. They ran bot farms to flood spaces with comments that dismissed opinions that didn’t favor their view. Money and power were directed to dumb assholes that could get more people on brand. Joe Rogan went from being a dumb comedian to a platform to introducing people to those networks. And it branched out from there. It was strategic. All I’m saying is we all should think more systematically and strategically. Protests have a use case. I’m not sure how effective it is in a digital world. Protests should evolve I think.

Can’t wait to passively observe this so go down.

This is it gentlemen. A new era begins!

You can’t “leave the Nazi table” if there’s no actual Nazi table. Take Ukraine, for example: think of the Azov Brigade. It doesn’t’t mean the entire Ukrainian population or military is made up of Nazi just because they’re tolerated.

It’s a fallacy to judge the whole based on an extreme subset. Just because there are far-right elements within a group doesn’t mean everyone in that group shares those beliefs.

Now, I’m not denying that some people are too comfortable with far-right ideologies within their ranks. That’s a real issue. But I also know many who clearly don’t align with that. So, while it’s valid to call out Nazi ideology when it appears, labeling people or groups as Nazis indiscriminately just weakens the argument.

Instead of using “Nazi” as a blunt instrument, we should confront the actual behavior when it happens and hold people accountable for it. That approach is far more likely to lead to real consequences and dialogue, rather than being written off as exaggeration or political posturing.

Keep in mind only a very small percentage of users post or write comments. Like less then 10%. And they’re nuts. We’re nuts for posting and commenting into the ether. But we’re even crazier for doing it in a place where everyone just agrees.

You’re not dealing with the person you’re commenting to. It’s about the 90% of others reading it.