I do understand the need to keep infrastructure within EU, but it is hard to argue against using the supernova that is South Korea to build it.

Funny thing is that at the moment they are as stuck as Hungarians with their Russian build.

Man, Hungary has already implemented this law with the reduction of gathering rights. The government was campaigning along the lines of speeding past Europe… I guess they weren’t lying.

I guess I am happy to see other countries facing similar threats, if only to realize that many Hungarians are just people like them, barely able to do anything in the face of such coordinated attacks.

In Hungary it is more about ‘inside enemies’ than weeding out migrants. That propaganda doesn’t work anymore, because the government needs to bring in extra workers from the far east, as nobody local is willing to work for such wages.

Stay on your toes and place your hate in the right place, if you need to hang onto it. They make it sound nationalistic, but I think it’s just plain old class war.

Just based on all the usual hashing between EU and Hungary, this is closer to a stern look than tying funds to rule of law, if you take that as a spectrum.

In a twisted way, I feel that these abusive laws will only quicken the downslide of the Fidesz regime. One of the main reasons they are still kicking aroubd is that they are magnificent in non-confrontational control. Any and all protests so far, the popo were super hands off. They had civil uniform police who would get a bit handsy, but I’m not sure they were police or just the private army of the government (Valton security).

So with all that in mind, if police start getting heavily involved in the protests, my money is on agression levels rising. While it’s horrible for the people, the government will lose any last remaining bit legitimacy they have.

I really hope it doesn’t come to full-on aggressive confrontation. There’s a pretty decent chance Fidesz will lose their supermajority next year through the remaining, heavily kneecapped democratic institutions we have left. Exciting times.

No, it’s purely distraction and building more support. A power play, if you will. It is the 15th time Fidesz has modified (unilaterally) the Hungarian constitution that they wrote about 15 years back.

With the same stroke they are also enshrining that drugs are bad and for some reason, the right to use cash. Alternatively many opposition politician’s have had their immunity revoked. And personally a scary one, dual citizens can lose citizenship for reasons.

As for the anti-gay sentiment. In the capital I would say it’s not a thing, but two guys holding hands walking down an empty street could get accosted. In smaller cities I’ve noticed that being openly gay is tolerated, but frowned upon. I’m sure the propaganda brainwashed many, there were plenty of haters to begin with anyway. Kids use gay and removed about the same way as Cartman from South Park.

The mayor of Budapest is still planning on hosting the Pride festival this year.

Get BMW, Audi & Mercedes to suspend activities. While the EU is still reaping the benefits of a worsening forint, it rings hollow that they wouldn’t have influence. Even closing the funds (tying it to rule of law) has had a positive effect, the regime seems to ve feeling it. It feels more and more that it’s all about the cashflow and sating interests.

The problem is the people in the EU have as much control over this phenomenon as an average opposition voter in Hungary.

In case anyone not familiar with Hungary’s political structure: ‘governing party set to push’ can be transcribed to goverment single-sidedly overwriting the constitution again.

We had a few protests along the lines, but it feels like the the whole country is holding it’s breath till next April (elections).

Without any googling whatsoever I am pretty sure there have been studies on the matter. My guess is either there is no trivial solution or something that would go against efficiency.

There is definitely a big alternative wind energy movement about. I’ve seen designs on small scale that basically just wobble and generate power. Maybe we have to step back a bit, before we can go full in. We can’t have slowly rotating blades chop up our birdies.

I dig your ideas and and stance on looking for a solution. I don’t think windmills go fast enough to achieve that effect, though just blinking LED strips might do the trick. I’m no bird lawyer per se, but I do believe their sight is different to ours.

You got my fantasy going, so now I’m imagining the windmills spouting some artificial clouds into the wind and lasers displaying birds of prey into the mist.

Bird stickers on the blade?

It’s mostly a dog whistle to get folks riled up about supporting gypsies. Even if we take worst case scenarios, a whole hoard of freeloaders is less stress on society than 1 rich bastard getting away with taxes.

Which makes the above shade all the more disheartening to any literate Hungarians coming this way.

I don’t think he visits these forums.

What a shitty thing to say.

Exactomundo! Choosing the dialogue, choosing the spin, it’s one the major spheres of control.

My ‘breakthrough’ moment was during Covid. Just looking at all the news (from sites I deemed ‘my side’) without any real information, but loaded with emotional phrasing made me realize that I am being used. I love that we have multiple options for news, don’t get me wrong, but I felt betrayed.

Since then, I mostly read comments or watch the video of the event the media is spinning. Comments are pretty awesome, cuz real people help digest (or misinterpret) the harsh tone of the outside world.

Stuff’s happening really quick. Orbán is trying to leave the ICC (proclaimed at the press conference with Netanyahu). We suspect it’s in preparation to host Putin soon.

In these interesting times I urge people against blanket hatred, or any hatred at all. We are all being pumped up emotionally, and it is hard to understand what’s going on if you are blinded by (the justified) rage you’re experiencing. Even having feelings towards Orbán, Putin or Netanyahu helps the media shape you, as when they get that dog whistle in place, we are prone to accept opinion as fact.

Most of us are doing the best we can, and in the rarest of cases (maybe not in politics) do we find actual bad actors instead of misled.

Times can be scary, but if we connect ourselves emotionally to the feed, it only becomes worse.

Were there any atrocities, besides the usual tirades of international travel?

That’s a tough joke.

Definitely question the source. Even after writing I realized RT is more akin to hollywood propaganda than RFE. On the best of days could we compare RT to AP, I guess.

That leaves my other point standing. I understand we are all people and are emotional about such matters, but you countered the Romanian source with a jab, then drove the point home by attacking their state of mind. An emotional, triggering response to a friggin link. Deepening divide, operating with shame.

Why do you use these tools of shaming when plain truth is on your side? Why did you not go through the romanian sources with a trusted translator service and reply with glaring problems instead of questioning their sobriety?

Hi, sorry to butt in on this thread, but this part almost feels malicious:

I’m supposed to read Romanian now?

Especially in an age of automatic translation, this sentence just broadcasts ill intent. While you cannot know what allegances that specific Romanian outlet has, it feels strangely biased you doing all this under a Russia Today article. Also those jabs, man. ‘Did you drink too much?’

You really gonna call sources into question on an RT thread?? Would I be going too far as stating RT is to Russia what RFE is to the US??