They’ve handily proven time and time again in recent memory how they can in fact just do things and the rest of the world will sit back and take it lying down, though. That’s the problem. Anyone who thinks it’s just an America issue or something like that grievously misunderstands the tenuous house of cards that the pax americana and era of modern peace is built upon. Realistically, how far are you willing to go to prevent fascism? Would you die for it? Would you crawl through the trenches in a land many seas away from home? Some people might say yes but realistically most Westerners and others would never dare give up their creature comforts. It’s not delusional to think the world can change in the way they suggest precisely because they’ve suggested it - that is the hallmark of the fascist movement and what ties their collective ethos together, a philosophy of domination in all aspects.

Idk in short, I agree that yeah these people are certainly morally bankrupt. Lots of them are delusional. Any group of people has some like that. That doesn’t mean we should strawman them. There’s lots of idiots and they might think the US could invade Greenland without causing an international crisis. Either fortunately or unfortunately, these aren’t the people saying that the US wants to own Greenland or that we should go to war with Iran, for example.

The people who control and run this movement are not delusional. They’re dangerous.

i made the freudian slip originally before publishing the comment but decided to keep it in because it felt apt. lol

they’re doing it very knowingly… they wrote an entire nearly 1000 page fucking document detailing exactly what they’re doing in excruciating detail.

the fascists == idiots trope needs to go bc that’s exactly what makes them dangerous. lots of these fuckers are quite intelligent and conniving. you should be weary.

I mean, it’s not misfortune it’s an intentional act of deception; kind of like naming yourself national socialists while being racist brownshirts… it’s an intentionally obtuse lie!

No. This line of thought concedes something to the American neofascist ideologues that I refuse to take seriously as an idea because when you see it plainly stated, not under milquetoast rhetorical wraps… the patent absurdity of the thought gleans true.

What is this idea, this concession? It’s the idea that your only true natural right is what they call the “right of feet” or some other asinine phrase. Technofascists believe you have no natural right other than the right to choose which shitty government you live in.

This isn’t true. Your espousing of the same idea is, similarly, not true. To anyone reading the original doomer comment - don’t let it get you down. You can change your home for the better and just because something doesn’t exist in the real world currently doesn’t mean it is “politically impossible”… think about how many ancient forms of government aren’t found in the world today. Do those constitute something “not politically possible” or are we starting to see the problem here?

People build a better world everyday. If you concede your ability to affect change you sacrifice the most divine nature of man.

why is this weird like, anti-american-exceptionalism so prevalent on the internet?

it’s so reactionary. you’re… actively engaging in the same kind of thought process that is the secret ingredient to american stupidity. if you’re not careful what’s happened and happening here will happen wherever you are, if it hasn’t already. and this sort of shit is why…

no lmao.

surprisingly hot take these days but I prefer critical analysis to being an emotional reactionary.

i suppose that’s just "cringe’ tho, isn’t it?

yeah let’s let elon elope to one of our most significant international rivals after letting him plunder virtually every datapoint owned by the federal government. i look forward to the russian bot farms becoming personalized down to the individual.

i mean no offense but are you guys that are cheering for this fucking stupid? do you just read stuff and respond based on how it makes you feel?

I’m personally scared for what the future holds, we are living in a post-Enlightenment society.

At the risk of sounding a little chud-y… we are tasked with the same challenge people like Newton or Spinoza dealt with in life; we need to rebuild meaning, reason, and thought from first principles in a way that is amicable to the modern order.

People, like those that we’re seeing in action here, probably think Modest Proposal is actually encouraging the audience to eat children. It’s a serious problem.

of course he means it literally?

that’s why i think, as i said, his comment is reductionist. the key word is

I think the only bad thing…

he’s just trying to draw an edgy hyperbolic narrative that the world only cares about the Holocaust in particular not because it is a genocide but because it threatened the international status quo. he’s wrong, but he’s not a nazi, at least as far as i can tell from his singular comment. i won’t come up to bat for the original commenter, he very well could be a bigot or a nazi. i don’t have enough context to know as a reader. his use of leftist diction and the way he wields it is a pretty strong indicator that this was his intended thesis, on top of obvious contextual clues.

man fuck idek what else to say. your response here is purely reactionary, you aren’t even saying anything other than reaffirming things you’ve already said.

i don’t agree with the original comment bc it is pessimistic reductionism but i think you and the people dogging on it severely lack media literacy and critical thinking skills, as kindly as that can be stated.

in what way is the former reading more likely than the latter??

you need to make far more assumptions about the original comment and commenter to come to the conclusion that he made the comment out of some weird bigoted malice than to just accept the obvious reading of it being a commentary on global society’s attitudes towards various genocides.

jesus fucking christ i see this shit all over the internet and it is why our society is collapsing. just droves of people behaving and thinking in ways that would fucking abhor a literature teacher from even just a decade ago.

i mean, most media coming out of the anglosphere is right-wing to some degree these days. maybe you associate metonymy with fascism due to that?

i don’t think “whatever that word is I just mentioned” is fascist rhetoric, however. lmfao. next you’re going to try and tell me using pronouns is a leftist calling card.

yeah fascist co-opt language all the time, this isn’t that tho dude. redirect your energy towards something real and effectual, not merriam-webster. you won’t gain any ground here.

no?

metonymy is a feature of the english language.

if it really bothers you that much then stop consuming english language news/media. i don’t mean that in a rude way but like, this isn’t a weird fad or something that the news is deciding to do… it is how we speak

actually in theory yes any catholic can be pope.

in practice, however…

sure.

greenland is historically and definitely a part of denmark. then again, the sudetenland was definitely a part of bohemia/czechia.

the united states is in a position to undertake an imperial conquest. i won’t claim any veracity for how long they might be able to hold on to any gains made, but they can make gains. i see a lot of people who live in places that are in the warpath of the trump party wanting to reject this idea online, sometimes out of ignorance, sometimes out of pride, sometimes for other reasons. the fact of the matter is that what the neofascist movement has been able to wrestle control of is the single largest, deadliest, and most effective military in the history of the earth. this isn’t american nationalism, it’s a rational analysis of the situation. most strategic flukes (eg, withdrawal from afghanistan) in america’s recent history have nothing to do with the military’s intrinsic capabilities; it has everything to do with american inexperience in the practice of imperialism. the military itself is actually like, incredibly fucking competent

the only other power on earth of any similar degree is china. china has essentially engaged in a neocolonial economic conquest of africa over the course of the 21st century, reasserting historical norms of chinese preeminence over global affairs. do you really think they will be any better than the americans? no. they seek blood and iron as well.

europe is not in a position to defend itself from america right now. i hope europeans realize this and vote in their own best interest to readily establish a pan european army as soon as possible. i know this is a controversial subject over there. but, this is the reality we live in.

the problem with the fascists’ imperialist ideas of conquest is that they are all based on kernels of truth, it’s how they appeal to their base.

attack them there, not in the space of rational discourse in which they are advantaged. they hold no respect for reality or the truth.