Think about the economy without money. There is a fixed amount of things that can be done with the available resources. That doesn’t change, no matter how wages or taxes are allocated. If taxes would decrease, inflation would compensate that.
If we want more, we need more. Cheaper resources or more profits from our products.
Turns out, almost all do.
A bit in jest but everything is TikTok consumerism. Which country but North Korea taking over would make a difference for the average citizen? Billionaires would lose their businesses, others would win. Why care who of them wins?
I know. I was not prepared for a .world community to demand and not oppose that way of thinking.
Ironic. Venice was commissioned by people like Bezos
Fine with me.
People can come together and build big things without elites, kings or bosses sitting down and telling everyone what to do. Just because societies that greatly limit the power of the elites no longer exist, having been crushed, doesn’t mean they don’t work.
Could. Hating Bezos instead of coming together and start building is the mental trap I try to point out in my other comments that is not accepted. Right now people need commissioning if they keep thinking the way they think, and they don’t want to hear it.
There are pockets that work, like Wikipedia or Burning Man. But they grew slowly and are not blueprints to get other projects done.
How is it exploitative? If you get market rates for your work or pay market rates for the stuff you buy, you don’t lose in transactions.
Those who maximize value extraction optimize resource allocation and bring prices down for everybody.
And yet, what other options exist right now?
But starting another regular company would end up with yet another billionaire, if successful. To avoid billionaires, businesses have to be structured and financed differently anyway.
It’s always duopolies because the elite doesn’t trust itself. This leaves some room for business.
To me, the sad part is that I am not simping, but nobody recognizes that. Like a bull in a bullfight, people attack billionaires without seeing the dagger.
Especially Amazon, people could have recognized the idea and created a cooperative competitor. Bezos is a billionaire because they haven’t.
There are four options for the billionaire situation. Do nothing, organize a new party, civil war or starting competing businesses.
Hating Bezos without understanding his skills looks like the first option to me. In a world of flooding zones, that makes me wary.
By your logic, people visit Venice for the fisher village huts.
If you don’t see what the elite does, how can you live in an equal society? Then nobody does those things and the society crumbles or those who do become the next elite.
Run corporations by ourselves? Gladly! When do the CEOs step down?
How come it’s either civil war or nothing for most lefties? Why are people willing to fight a civil war and believe in success but not willing to start a business? The probability for survival is much bigger.
You have it backwards. Do I miss the /s?
Did slave owners build Venice? No.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetian_slave_trade
Rich Romans? Also no.
This is further supported by documentation on the so-called “apostolic families”, the twelve founding families of Venice who elected the first doge, who in most cases traced their lineage back to Roman families
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Republic_of_Venice
Bezos doesn’t come from a rich family
Ted was a Danish American unicyclist born in Chicago to a family of Baptists.
Ted struggled with alcohol and with his finances. Jacklyn left her husband to live with her parents, filing for divorce in June 1965 when Jeff was 17 months old.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bezos
Bezos is a rich trader, like the Venetians. Compared to them he doesn’t look that bad.
Downvoters, these are facts and OP is wrong. You should’t build your convictions on lies. Find valid reasons for the things you want to do.
If I create my own Amazon-equivalent they’re gonna destroy me before I ever make it big
Start an AWS in Europe now. You should even get government support.
What is it you think Bezos does and has done “for Amazon” that makes him so important? T
Have you seen my great man comments? Nothing in particular. But if people want to do without billionaires, they have to do “it” by themselves.
Locals can hardly even live their anymore. So why wouldn’t thry be angry?
Are they? “Pay more tax” sounds like a demand from American expats. More irony if they are defending Venice from Bezos.
What structures are people supposed to create exactly?
That’s to be determined. I don’t know how people want to live.
What Bezos has done for Amazon, which is ignored as he “doesn’t work”, has to be replaced. People have to be organized. The structure can be anything that works, but it has to be something.
Same for all the other billionaires that people don’t want to see in power.
Entitled motherfuckers coming in their private planes and yachts acting like they own a city that’s literally sinking and where locals can hardly make a living.
Haven’t locals already been replaced by millionaires and moved to Mestre? I don’t want to root for millionaires who feel diminished by billionaires.
Because this is backwards. Billionaires fill the void that people don’t fill. The system could be changed right now if people stopped focussing on billionaires and would create their own structures.
Yes, people are kept stupid. But believing that all it takes is getting rid of billionaires is part of the disinformation.
It’s not the good-guy corporation you think it is.
Of course. As the saying goes, there are no innocent billionaires.
If Bezos gave a flying shit about humanity, imagine what kind of change he could actually do.
Yes, that would be nice. But it totally shifts the blame away from regular people. We live in a democracy. This entire debate could have been spent on how to improve the world. If we don’t have the money, why don’t we come up with a plan and ask Bezos for the money if needed? Actually there are so much taxes that society can easily outspend Bezos.
Of course. But Bezos taking loans is only slightly connected to keeping people poor. As far as I know Bezos also hasn’t financed a regime change for some mining operations.
Other corporations depend much more on keeping people poor. They don’t get the attention because they are not household names. It’s not good that richness has become the measure for evil, and not evil itself.
Maximizing value extraction is not bad as long as there is a free market. That’s what drives competition and brings prices down. Of course, employees and customers need other options for this to be fair.
Unless you organize a cooperating economy, maximizing value extraction is inevitable.
Besides, you shouldn’t ignore the work he does.
He owns shares of Amazon, not money. If he sells those he loses his influence.
People are struggling because markets are distorted, including preventing free global movement of people. Figure out who does that before hating Bezos.
As was the management structure, leadership culture and selection of markets by Bezos.
People on computers work, but so do CEOs.
How?