In a joint statement following talks, Xi Jinping and Putin stated that the war in Ukraine could only be resolved by removing its “root causes”.

Such formulation clearly echoes key Russian propaganda messages used by the Kremlin to justify the launch of the full-scale war, including the threat of NATO expansion, discrimination against Russian-speaking people and the suppression of the Russian language, culture and media in Ukraine.

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    I agree. The war in Ukraine can only truly be resolved by removing it’s root causes. Remove Putin, and the war ends.

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      I would go one step further and remove all of the imperialist thinking in Russia, just to be on the safe side.

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      I want to note that the war has broad support among the Russian public, so while it might not be Ukraine they’ll attack another one of their neighbors if only Putin is removed. See: Georgia, Chechnya.

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        Worth noting that it is illegal in Russia to criticize the war, so saying you don’t support it is probably a good way to get yourself sent to the front lines in an infantry uniform. So, it’s difficult to gauge how many people actually genuinely support it or not.

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      The doctrine of the EU so far, is to consider China a multi-faced player: a partner for cooperation, an economic competitor and a systemic rival (e.g. it’s possible to cooperate with China on climate, but not on human rights).

      So far, China has also been a multi-faced player. Xi has patted Putin on the back and declared “unlimited partnership”, but no Chinese weapons have been seen in Ukraine. Chinese soldiers have been observed there, but they seem to be really few for a country of that size - either mercenaries or people obtaining first hand experience under mercenary cover. Too few to matter as soldiers.

      China has warm trade relations with Russia and has helped Russia source technology and endure sanctions. However, they haven’t made a special and dedicated effort to insulate Russia from secondary sanctions, and several Chinese companies have applied sanctions on Russia as a result.

      On other occasions, Chinese representatives have said nice words about Ukraine’s territorial integrity. But deeds haven’t followed.

      In UN votes about Ukraine, China often abstains.

      Officially, China doesn’t sell drones to Russia or Ukraine. In reality, both Ukrainian and Russian drones are full of Chinese parts. Ukrainian government is asking every bigger player to have a plan B that works without China, but few really have one. What Russian government asks of their drone makers, I don’t know.

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    Of course they would. They need a justification for when they decide to invade Taiwan.

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    Fuck China, can’t believe people are falling for their propaganda these days when they directly support Putfuck and his war machine and then have the gall to talk about honor and respect. China is still an evil dictatorship and every day we should be reminded of that.

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    Anyone here understands geopolitics and the cornering of Russia by NATO (read: the US plus European vassals) or are you just talking out of vibes? Anyone here remembers the 2011 US coup on Ukraine and what it led to? It’s a bit more complex than what the commenters here believe, lol.

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        This has to be a joke, they couldn’t even get the year correctly and it’s been drilled into them. Right???

        edit: nvm, likely a puppet, checked the account

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          I got the year wrong BECAUSE it hasn’t been drilled into my head, lol. I just believe it’s more complex than simply “Russia bad”, especially in the face of NATO expansionism. I’m not emotionally attached though, which is why I can actually freely learn about it, unlike others who can’t conceive anything outside of “Russia bad, China bad, West good”…

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            It’s actually that simple. Why complicate things. If you bothered to look at Putin a history, you would know what he had been up to all this time.

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              Fair enough, my bad. And here I thought geopolitics were complex affairs, I should’ve just hated Eurasia and Oceania like daddy told me to.

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                The problem with people like you is that you don’t think, you repeat. You “think” you are the singular “enlightened” among a sea of propaganda-eating idiots, while saying the same shit Russia pushes to try to justify invading a sovereign country.

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                  I’m not immune to propaganda and I make mistakes like everyone else. Again, all I said is that it’s more complex than “America and Western Europe good, Russia and China bad” and people are throwing tantrums…